Experience of Passing PLAB 2 in 3rd attempt

:arrow_left: PLAB 2 Personal Experience

ALLHAMDULLILAH By the Grace of Almighty I passed my PLAB 2 exam in 3rd attempt recently with 14 stations passed, in previous 2 exams they were 6 and 8. I am sharing my experience of what mistakes I did and how I made Improvements

My first attempt
I booked my exam for 1st of sept in March 2023. I had no idea what this exam was about. Everyone who had appeared in PLAB 2 used to say to choose an academy take classes and practice for few weeks and you will pass. That was the game plan back then.
So I booked opted an academy took online classes in May 2023 which I couldn’t get anything because of long hours classes. I found a study partner in June and I started practicing going through nwannekas. We did nwannekas for a month and then I flew to Manchester by early august. There I kept practicing with my study partner practiced mannequins simman 20 scenarios a day, because we both were new I didn’t get to know what mistakes I was doing. Either I was doing right or wrong I didn’t know. I failed all my mocks. Went to the exam and I failed but my friend passed.
Assessment of my first attempt:
In my first attempt I had very little knowledge compared to my further attempts. After I got my result I compared it with those who had appeared on that day and discussed what they did different from what I did.
And following is the list of my mistakes which I did

  1. Never believe person who had appeared and passed in first attempt because they know very little about the exam because of luck or natural skills which contributes to their performance.
    TRUST ME. Only those who have failed and assessed them, trust their evaluation. Because all the tutors in the academies were those who had passed first time either because of luck or natural skills, they were just spreading myths and rumors regarding exam without any knowledge

  2. Don’t do anything on exam day which you have not practiced earlier.
    The second mistake was I deviated from the strength I had that was history taking, because they kept saying at the academy to take focused history, without knowing what is that and without any practice I did that so I messed up a lot of stations.

  3. Know all 3 components DATA GATHERING, MANAGEMENT ,INTERPERSONAL SKILLS thoroughly
    I didn’t know what was required in all three, I was just following notes blindly

  4. Don’t go for the exam until you know all the scenarios
    It is really important to memorize all the scenarios and how to perform them

  5. Know your history and differentials
    Every section of PLAB 2 has a way to ask history and for clinical scenarios there are fixed differentials in PLAB 2.
    Practice should be enough that you are able to short down list of your differentials.

  6. Practice with someone who knows about PLAB 2 and point out your mistakes

  7. If you didn’t take good history in clinical scenarios you will not score marks in other components as well
    After comparing 6-7 results I noticed a pattern in 90% of the clinical scenarios unless one has scored good in history they have scored good overall.

  8. Every scenario has a specific approach
    I didn’t know approaches to BBN, LGBTQ, problem colleague, medical error I thought they were just conversations however there is a fixed structure to counselling scenarios.

  9. Always check the scenarios you get in your mocks
    Always check the stations you get in your mocks either you pass or you fail them, and check from multiple sources. Only I had done the scenarios of my mocks well I would have passed because 8-9 of them were in my mocks.

My second attempt
I booked my second attempt for January.
I started with the recalls and did recalls throughout, initially I started memorizing history part than management. I took a course but it was not helpful at all. I practiced it with people whom I met at the academy in my first attempt and they had offered their help they helped me a lot and gave me a lot of time I am indebted to them for all of my life.
A colleague of mine who had joined my department recently after I failed my first attempt, she had passed PLAB 2 with a very high score, I became friends with her very near to my exam almost 15-20 days before I flew to MAN for my exam. I kept practicing with her but it was very late and she pointed out a lot of my mistakes. She also told me to postpone my exam she said I was not prepared enough but it was too late and I went for the exam.
But failed again and exam was very difficult and to my assessment following were my mistakes

  1. The more you know more you are scared of this exam
    I reached Manchester just 4 days before exam didn’t take any mocks neither went to academy and I was very nervous and was not confident enough while performing.

  2. Never be over confident
    In my first attempt I was very well prepared with teaching stations and procedures, so for my 2nd attempt I practiced them very little and I failed a very easy procedure and teaching station. I would have passed if I had practiced them well.

  3. Very simple scenarios were very tricky
    A friend of mine had emphasized a lot to take LOOVAN but he didn’t tell me what was good about him. Only If I had read notes of LOOVAN which was sent to me by a friend before my 2nd attempt I would have passed because 3 stations were very tricky and later when I read those notes after I failed my 2nd attempt I was depressed to see what I missed because scenarios had changed a lot in 4 months they had added new questions and also they had changed them to confuse the candidate and all those scenarios were in those LOOVAN notes exactly the same way they have presented in my second exam.

My 3rd attempt:

As soon as I heard about UKMLA I booked my exam just before UKMLA and I had 2.5 months to prepare. In my second attempt I had scored well in history taking part but very poorly in management and IPS, so I focused on them and kept revising data gathering.

This time I also had a friend who was also repeater and had exam on same date time venue as me and my colleague who I have mentioned earlier helped both of us and we practiced daily until we flew to MAN.

This time I didn’t leave anything practiced each and every thing and we practiced daily, and I tried to improve my IPS. For IPS along with practice I had listened to a lot of mocks and videos on youtube which i hadn’t watched before. I was so obsessed with my exam that I kept listening to videos whenever I had time. This was a very new thing to me as I hadn’t done this in past. This helped me get an idea where I was lacking in IPS. And helped me improve a lot not only in IPS but also in history and management part. And also a month before I read a very well prepared notes of LOOVANs classes which helped me a lot in my exam.

Before leaving for Manchester we had practiced everything and was prepared enough. This time I went 15 days before exam and I went to same academy because relatives with whom I stay in MAN, the academy is close to their residence. When I went to academy I was very nervous, I tried finding people with whom I could practice but no one cared everyone was busy practicing with their own groups.

After my first mock I started becoming confident and my fear of exam started to go away. Because when you practice with the people you know you start to become comfortable so it is better to practice with different people. As I was prepared well, I had enough knowledge and this time mocks were helpful as I could practice executing my knowledge. Unlike my 1st mock, in my 2nd and 3rd mock I had more control on my facial expressions. And in 3rd mock I was able to execute a better IPS which I had failed to do in my first 2 mocks. So by the end of my 3rd mock fear of exam had lessened a lot even though I failed all of them. But the good thing I did was I was able to analyze my own mistakes as I had almost 6 stations in those mocks which came in my PLAB 2 exam.

Key to passing this exam is to know your mistakes and right way to improve them with correct guidance because there are many people who are misguiding by taking large sum of fee for their courses.

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Congratulations @fawadkhan! :clinking_glasses:

Your journey was filled with struggles, but you always found a way to push further and deeper. Your story is impressive and inspirational to both new and old aspirants. I wish you success in the future and hope you utilize the knowledge and skills you learned during the PLAB 2 journey. :heart:

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Thank you so much for this. I failed twice already and have been feeling hopeless, confused and unmotivated. Dare I say even gave up. Your post was a sign for me and has encouraged me and made me realise what I should focus on more. Thank you so much for the detailed explanation and guidance. I will book my third attempt soon.

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it is really hard to keep your spirit up. Many times it came to my mind either I would be able to do it. But you got to believe in yourself, there are only tiny mistakes which become hurdles, you got to find them and work on them. Best of Luck

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Honestly I admire you. Some people are just built different. I thought I was strong but if there is one thing I can’t handle well it’s failure when I tried. I was lucky to pass first attempt. I booked my exam about 6 months in advance, since I didn’t have a lot of means I decided to put all chances on my side and do an academy. I am the first from my school to do this exam so I didn’t have a lot of advices. I kept reading my notes from PLAB 1 thinking that will help. Tried my best to attend the online course despite the lack of internet connection. Then I was in the UK, couldn’t find a partner cause no one from my country and no one was free. Managed to practice 3/4 times online with someone but mostly I simulated, practicing with a mirror or my pillow. My mocks were encouraging since many praised my history taking and management. However my IPS were abysmal and I knew it but couldn’t really work on it. Used YouTube and now other vids to practice wearing a ‘mask’ and faking it. Exam day it was total chaos imo. I messed up my sim man, exam and prescription stations. Heck by the 8 station I was only sure of 2! However my singles best tips is ONCE YOU LEAVE A STATION FORGET ABOUT IT! I just acted like I always did with my patients. I guessed 4 years of practice counted for something. I got 11 stations, barely passed but honestly I would have been glad with 10

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you are right about that. it is another important thing to forget about the station you have done and think about others. ONE STATION AT A TIME.
I also thought I did anly 7-8 right others might be marginal, and there was one time in my exam where 2 of my stations according to me went bad I was badly effected by those but I gathered my emotions and gave my full in all of the rest and By Blessings of Almighty I did very well in all those after that.

Unfortunately for me. I’m a graduate. I studied abroad and came back to the U.K. to register as my family live here. But I can’t practice here without registration, and I couldn’t practice in my country of study as the patients don’t speak English. So I’m in a tight situation where I don’t have real life experience other than clinical attachments.

While I’m happy you passed your exam on the 3rd attempt, I highly disagree with some of your points from your first attempt.
People who studied right and passed on the first attempt can be trusted, they’re the ones who know what they’re saying.
All due respect, I will listen more to someone who passed than someone who did not. I can learn from your mistakes but I’ll pay more attention to the person who passed.
I don’t think it’s fair to discredit people’s hard work. It’s not luck or natural skills, ITS HARDWORK, SWEAT AND STUDYING THE RIGHT WAY.
I knew nothing about PLAB 2 but I worked hard. I put in the work and ACED my exam. What luck or natural skill did I have?

Second, you don’t have to know all the scenarios before you sit. It’s not a deal breaker. Yes, practice all if you can but if you are solid on your approaches and concepts, YOU ARE GOOD. I did not do all scenarios, if I had the opportunity to I would have but I was solid on my approach.

I aced all my mocks with 16,15 and 16. Took another one at Dr Alaa and aced with 14 and maximum scores.

I aced my PLAB 2 on first attempt and aced it well.

So please, let’s celebrate everyone who has passed and not attribute their hard work to natural skills or luck. It’s really not fair to say that.

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The same way you changed strategy completely and passed on your first attempt, some already discovered this and passed on their first.
It’s unfortunate you did not know till your third attempt.

Will it now be right for me to say you passed by luck and natural skils? Because honestly someone passing on their 3rd feels like luck to me, but seeing how you intentionally changed strategy, adjusted your mind set and passed tells me you put in the work and did things the right way this time.

First attempters can be trusted, they are the ones who know what they’re saying.
Please people LISTEN TO THEM.

I rest my case.

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How can I get the LOOVAN notes please?

I was misguided by alot who passed in their first attempt they themselves said they might have passed because of luck, even the tutors in acadmies who have opened their own acadmies they didnt had clear idea about the exam, i wont name them.
Because in the exam room the situation is different.
Assessment of result gives a different perspective regarding the exam, it gives more knowledge regarding how exam is marked.

it is not necessary but majority who pass in first attempt they know very little, I met only one who knew everything and was able to point out my mistakes

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Passing this exam on the first attempt does involve a bit of luck, especially considering the constantly changing cut-off scores. While I don’t want to undermine the hard work everyone puts in, the outcome can vary due to several factors. I believe the process is subjective; it’s not just about endlessly practicing scenarios or spending a lot of money on academies. With the right approach, a bit of luck, and showing up on the exam day, it should be manageable.

Furthermore, passing the exam on the first attempt doesn’t automatically make someone an authority on guiding others to success.

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I understand what you’re saying and I’m sorry you felt misguided by them.
I know not everyone who passed necessarily can teach or guide others. At least I can speak for myself and a couple others who gave me feedback.
The intentionality put into studying, the days of painstakingly researching how to pass this exam, for me luck has nothing to do with it. I know how hard I researched accurate materials.
I learnt how to shut out the noise. A lot of people have an opinion about PLAB 2, I was careful who I listened to.

If maybe they scaled by 0.5 or 1 mark with 10 stations on the dot, then they might want to attribute it to luck. That’s up to them.

But for anyone who passed and passed well like myself, both mocks and the real exam, I can tell you hardly will they tell you it was by luck.

But generally, I don’t even think people should reduce themselves to luck, own your win and defend it honorably.
We’re medical doctors, we have put in years of sacrifice and hard work to get to where we are.
Defend your hard work, be proud of your win, don’t be afraid to own it.
This is my mindset for life generally, I hope it helps somebody.

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You need to face reality. Believing that everyone commenting has also failed the exam is baffling to me. In life, a bit of luck is often necessary to succeed. I’ve seen people who did everything right still fail simply because they didn’t perform on the exam day. Consider my message as a whole rather than focusing solely on the “luck” part, and you’ll understand my point

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which notes did you read of loovan?

They were made by a friend of mine who took loovans classes a month before my exam

Congrats about your perseverance. Not everyone can do that. I have just starting making research about what Plab 2 is, which courses there are etc. As far as I understood, you found Loovan useful. Can you please share a link of your current documents about Loovan? Thanks in advance.

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loovan is only useful when you know the scenarios. His lectures or notes only help to clear your concepts how to approach a station